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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:00 pm    Post subject: Weed ident Reply with quote

Can anyone ident the weed which is taking over my onion bed?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Epilobium sp.
Would like a good close up of an open flower.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will get a better pic sometime.....wet and missable at the moment so no flowers open

Any idea of best method of control......the bed is just overrun
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a better photo with a flower

Also a photo of what my onion bed looks like



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a problem for sure and looks like a whole lot of re-seeding over a considerable time. The chances are that, even if you methodically dug every bit out, there'd be enough seeds lying dormant to repeat the performance again.

Without claiming to be the answer to everything, a sheet of good strong black plastic over the winter would at least give you a clean start for next year, or see 'Onion experiment' in the Veg Growing section below if you're intending to have onions this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely a lot of reseeding going on....you would hardly think there is onion grwoing in there.

This was tilled at the start of the year and looked perfect, but there must have been dormant seeds in there. This is the first year for the the beds.
I have another 5 beads but only using one for potatoes. There is hardly any of this weed in the other beds, even though 4 are not in use.

I covered two of the other beds a few weeks ago to kill weeds on that and will cover the other 2 shortly to keep the weeds down.
These won't be put into use until next year. Will probably added manure/seaweed mulch before the winter.

Was only away a week and was surprised to see how overgrown it got....I knew these were there and was slowly picking them every so often. Just wondering if I am doing right by hand weeding them?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear ...you do have a problem.
In your new pics I think you have 2 plants..
One is Epilobium hirsutum..Great willowherb.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Epilobium+hirsutum&rlz=1C1GNAM_en-GBGB687GB687&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn-u6sstrNAhXkC8AKHfqzCxgQ_AUICCgB&biw=1920&bih=971#imgrc=LFPMgO_IxIXKnM%3A

But the pink flower with 5 petals in that same pic is ....
Geranium robertianum..... Herb Robert....another thug

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=geranium+robertianum&rlz=1C1GNAM_en-GBGB687GB687&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=971&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5uMP0strNAhXrA8AKHbSQCzwQ_AUIBigB
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redshank???
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tagwex wrote:
Redshank???



Persicaria maculosa...common name Redshank.
Haven't seen that in Keeks pic.

http://www.first-nature.com/flowers/persicaria-maculosa.php

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh probably mixed up as usual. Is it not similar in appearance to Willowherb?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at your picture of Herb Robert and note the seed head, when it gets to this stage too late it wil have fired off its seed, allthough its easy to remove pulling it up it is one of the better weeds to hace as it covers a lot of ground suopressing other weeds and when remooved you have a lot of cleared ground weed free very qiuckly until next season, When weeding alweays do a little where its seen the mostest.??
Could be worse if it was ground elder or bindweed or marsh horsetail be thankful for small mercies, also stop the willowherb from seeding as they will blow on the wind llke dandelin seed and spread everywhere and I mean everywhere, Driveway,Concrete, tarmac, cobblelock ,gutters walls , roofs. you mane it it wil grow there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Everyone...now once I know what I am dealing with I can get on with it. As you say Greenage, pulling them up is easy and leaves clear weed free ground around it. Good to know about the seed head. That is obviously where my problem started

There is a lot a other weeds in there also so i will be coming back for more advice

Greengage wrote:

Could be worse if it was ground elder or bindweed


What you don't seen in the photos as it is hidden by the other weeds is bindweed. It is there, but I have a plan to tackle that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take any amount of Herb Robert and willowherb in exchange for a border full of bindweed and ground elder! The first two are easily managed compared with the others. Throw in some hairy bittercress and you have the unholy trinity that plagues my garden. Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the midges.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh HOW could I forget the midges? Laughing

Mind you the gale force wind that's been decapitating my peonies and roses seems to keep the little blighters away.

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