Clay Chiminea help.
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: Clay Chiminea help. |
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I purchased a clay chiminea and I would love to use it as a planter but it needs
to be weather proofed and I have googled chiminea sealers but can't find anything that is available in Ireland . I don't really wNt to have to paint it with a weatherproof paint as I quite like the colour it is . Just wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to how to seal it so that I can leave it out as a planter .
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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You wil also have to drill drainage holes in it as plants will drown in the winter !
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Not an actual suggestion, but there is a liquid you mix with cement called a 'plasticiser' that is supposed to waterproof it. If all else fails this might do the job but I'd check with a builder first?
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:08 am Post subject: |
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I would go with Blowins suggestion of plasticiser, or plas as it is known as in the plastering trade. Get the manufacturers details and inquire with their technical department first and explain what you are trying to do. You may need to dilute it first.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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In the dim and distant past I vaguely remember using a product called Water Seal on concrete. It is a water repellant and is only shiny if you use multiple coats. It should work OK on clay/terracotta. If it is designed to get hot it should have been high fired, which means it will have some frost resistance anyway.
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i think the issue with frost is not so much the resistance to cracking due to heat, but that it might get wet, and then freeze - and as the ice permeating the chimenea takes up more space than the water which comprised it would, the expansion causes it to crack.
you can see it on brickwork sometimes after a heavy frost, it's called spalling iirc.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everybody for the prompt replies. I only paid €30 for it so It's probably not great anyway. The polybond sounds like a good idea as does the plasticiser . Would I be able to purchase just a small amount of these products do you think ?
As for drilling holes in the bottom , is there a chance that the whole thing will crack ? I want to put an evergreen trailing plant in the bottom part only as I want to leave the lid on the top. Any suggestions for a plant ? It will most likely be in the shade .
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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medieval knievel wrote: | i think the issue with frost is not so much the resistance to cracking due to heat, but that it might get wet, and then freeze - and as the ice permeating the chimenea takes up more space than the water which comprised it would, the expansion causes it to crack.
you can see it on brickwork sometimes after a heavy frost, it's called spalling iirc. |
When clay is high-fired it becomes more resistant to moisture so more resistant to frost damage. Cheaper, clay pots are more porous. Wet a plant pot and see how fast the water soaks in. Then wet a frost-resistant one, the water sinks in much more slowly, if at all.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Use a drill bit designed for glass.
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Ivy will hit the ground very quickly and wil spread along the ground and root everywhere. What about a fern ?
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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My experience of ivy is that it won't grow where you want it to, just everywhere you don't want it to!
Japanese Painted Fern is a beauty, very graceful. It is evergreen and the young foliage has a pink tinge.
I knew I had a pic somewhere. That's it on the left. It's planted by the pond now and looks great.
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The kitty cat looks great too !
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That's 'baby' Bob, my tripod cat. I resized the photo for another site and couldn't be axxed to do it again.
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