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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject: This is driving me NUTS its so familiar Reply with quote

Please can you help me with identification. For some reason I feel its a creeper of some kind, and I want to say clematis but the leaves are a bit furry. Its deciduous and its been in shade in a pot and hasn't flowered. We're moving it out in to direct sun to see if it will do something more exciting. Thanks for the help.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry that no one has come along to help you.
It is not showing any signs of being a creeper.
When it flowers do please add pics to this thread.
I can offer no help on this one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could it be Rudbeckia??????????
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replies. It it starts to do something more adventurous
I'll update the photos
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intriguing isn't it? I know what you mean. It is kind of familiar and I could give you a vast list of things it is not - but that wouldn't be much help. Let's hope the flowers throw some light on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll throw in my amateurs guess.
A member of the nightshade family.
Buddlia davidii.
Tomato, solanum.
Blackfruit dogwood.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't look like a shrub...not woody.....stems soft.
So that would rule out Buddleja and Dogwood.

Very keen to see more pics please avs0020.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, we can do this! The stems have a square look to them, is that right? The leaves are opposite - which SHOULD narrow things down. Also the veining is unusual - not like a typical leaf with a central vein.

And it IS some damned familiar. Mad

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first post said deciduous.
Is it a bean? Achyranthes, Jimsonweed.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st post said ......Clematis and creeper...neither of which it is.
It looks like a plant that dies back in the winter and reappears in spring...a perennial maybe.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perennial, yes. Jimson weed, absolutely not! That's datura, a poisonous member of the nightshade family.

I'm leaning towards a member of the mint family, Lamiaceae. Opposite leaves, square stems, BIG family Confused Flowers will be the give away. Go on FLOWER darn it! Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some photos are so dodgy to compare this unknown specimen to. Different light, different resolutions, different quality of pictures.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still no flowers and to add to the intrigue - as we all love a good mystery - this is something I consciously bought several years back, and now cannot recall its details. (lesson there = keep a journal) but the suggestions so far - and thanks for them - are not familiar to me so I don't think its the answer. I'll update the photo as soon as it does something exciting. Thank you all so much for the interest and the assistance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'mint' family includes sage, rosemary, thyme, lemon balm, hyssop, basil and oregano. It's none of them, but I still think it's a member of that family.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lamiaceae... or Labiatae are a family of flowering plants commonly known as the mint or deadnettle family.
Huge family...see.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamiaceae
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