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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:07 pm    Post subject: 'Blind' stems on Moss rose 'William Lobb' Reply with quote

Does anyone have any experience of 'blind' stems appearing on shrub roses? These are not suckers from the root-stock. They are growing on the same branches as ones that have flowered.

They are growing vigorously, but the leaves are paler than the others and DO LOOK like suckers. I don't understand what's going on. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Lobb is an old Moss rose generally flower on older wood and should be allowed to develop naturally, It should be pruned in llate summer after flowering.Remove the three Ds (Dead, Decayed, and Diseased wood) Avoid a build up of older unproductive wood, if it becomes leggy remove some older stems from the base,So why did you stem not flower could be older wood not pruned at right time its unlikly to be a sucker as it is not grafted.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/98627/Rose-William-Lobb/Details
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never thought of that, dur! It's obvious when you think about it. All the flowers were on old wood and it was it's first full year in the garden. Feel such a numpty. Rolling Eyes

It's just that it flowered then sent out so MUCH new growth and all the others roses I have in that garden are repeat flowering. I have trimmed those stems back by half because of wind-rock. We'll have to see what happens.

Thanks for solving that Greengage. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam. Just what I was going to say. He beat me too it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you know that he was a plant collector for the Veitchs (Think thats right) he was also responsible for the introduction of the Monkey puzzle tree and the Wellingtonia and Berberis darwinii all of which are still grown today ion gardens.
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Way back in the early 80's my father planted a monkey puzzle/Chilean pine in the front garden. It was only about a foot tall. Now it must be close to 40'. Anyway, we had an elderly neighbour who must have been in his 80's at the time who used to regularly mix up his words. "I see you have planted a puzzle the monkey tree" he said to my father. It stuck and it has never been called anything else since.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greengage wrote:
Did you know that he was a plant collector for the Veitchs (Think thats right) he was also responsible for the introduction of the Monkey puzzle tree and the Wellingtonia and Berberis darwinii all of which are still grown today ion gardens.
He also introduced the Flame Creeper, Tropaeolumn speciosum, one of my favourite plants. I think it was Helen Dillon who described it as 'difficult to establish and impossible to irradicate'.

It took three attempts to get mine to grow. Now it covers half the length of my long border (70') and has invaded the wood next door, climbing half way up a hawthorn and smothering a R. Ponticum. My 'William Lobb' rose is in the opposite border - perhaps I should grow them together?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smothering R Ponticum? Now there's an idea!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planted the tropaeolumn a few years ago it never took I would t mind trying it again ,can you take cuttings ?
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I planted the tropaeolumn a few years ago it never took I would t mind trying it again ,can you take cuttings ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ado 2 wrote:
I planted the tropaeolumn a few years ago it never took I would t mind trying it again ,can you take cuttings ?
I'm sure you can, but I have never had any luck. It is happy to send out very long, underground creepers in a woodland but cocks it's toes in good garden soil? Confused

Probably best if you try a plant again, perhaps with some leaf mould. Good luck!

Oddly enough, we are discussing yew trees on another thread - the first time I saw this glorious little thug was growing up through an enormous yew tree. I thought the flowers were yew 'berries', until I got closer. The flowers practically glowed against the dark foliage. Bright red flowers and shiny, blue berries - what's not to like? Very Happy Thank you William Lobb.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean now.


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