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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so I now know far more than I ever wanted to about ungulates and I swear I'm not being deliberately mulish, but where does the 11 month bit fit in?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah- the mule is the product of two different species, so with gestation time give it 11 months or so and the male donkey and female horse will produce a new mule. Fiendishly clever.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah- the mule is the product of two different species, so with gestation time give it 11 months or so and the male donkey and female horse will produce a new mule. Fiendishly clever.


Thats what I thought. Now we've just got to wait for James to confirm it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of those 'of course' moments!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah- the mule is the product of two different species, so with gestation time give it 11 months or so and the male donkey and female horse will produce a new mule. Fiendishly clever.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats if it is a mule. James is keeping very quiet
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooooooo quiet
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps as we got the answer he's a bit miffed so looking desperately for a new riddle
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUCKEROO.
It was a Mule alright.
Well done Margo.

I was out and about in Galway city today on errands and it was killing me that I could not come back, sit down, and confirm it for ye.

A mule is the offspring of a male donkey (Equus asinus) and a female horse (Equus caballus)
The mule is Equus mulus
If I were to kill all the mules alive today then Equus mulus would cease to exist.
However if a male donkey and a female horse mated tonight then we would have the rebirth of the Equus mulus within around 11 or so months, which is the gestation period of the horse.

A hinny is the opposite..... the offspring of a male horse and a female donkey.
These are rarer I believe due to the complication of the smaller animal carrying the young of a larger animal.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew next one please
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we ever meet Kilkelly you know what is going to happen.
Question, a stupid one maybe but then again if you don't ask you will never know. Are all mules male? If not, do the females have the reproductive parts even though they are infertile?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Question, a stupid one maybe but then again if you don't ask you will never know. Are all mules male? If not, do the females have the reproductive parts even though they are infertile?

A female horse and a male donkey have a mule. But hinnies and mules can't have babies of their own. They are sterile because they can't make sperm or eggs. They have trouble making sperm or eggs because their chromosomes don't match up well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Margo has it pretty spot on again, although there are rare exceptions........ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2290491.stm

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A mule has given birth to a male foal in a hamlet deep in rural Morocco.

No big deal, you may think, but in fact the birth was a minor scientific miracle.

A mule is the hybrid of a horse and a donkey and should be sterile - except in this instance.

There have only been two substantiated cases of a mule giving birth in the past quarter century: one in China in 1988 and the other also in Morocco in 1984.

Since 1527, (when records began on the issue) there have only been a total of 60 reported cases of mules giving birth.

"The occurrence is so historically rare that the Romans had a saying Cum mula peperit, meaning 'when a mule foals', the equivalent of our 'once in a very blue moon'," explained Dr Gigi Kay, a horse vet with the charity the Society for the Protection of Animals Abroad, who has visited the mother and son.

The mule's aged owner did not realise the mule was pregnant and rode her 20 kilometres to market the day before the birth

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So are all mules male?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a question you see every day.
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