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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back GG. Is that the funicular that works with water travelling in the opposite direction? I will check it out later. Only trying to help but I think you have come to the conclusion already that you haven't the space for a disabled ramp. 24m was bad enough but 28m is even worse plus the level landing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that's the one. My dad explained to me how it worked and I thought it was the neatest idea ever. I'd have been about 7! The fact that it is still running after 130 or so years is a testament to Victorian engineering. We often used it on our trips to Saltburn.

Yes, I figured the ramp idea won't work. Even allowing that a private garden doesn't have to follow the rules re gradient and resting places exactly, it would be too steep to be useful to a wheelchair user and would probably occupy way too much space.

I did incorporate such a ramp into the Memorial Garden I designed for LYIT. It runs around half of the outside edge of the courtyard the garden is in and it works well, making it possible to walk all around the space at different levels.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be psychic, have only just finished reading about it on wiki, went through a few changes in its life I see. I remember some BBC programme from a few years ago talking about it. Possibly ' Coast to Coast', an excellent programme to watch.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid this garden is like Topsy, "it just growed". Although the lawn and border were thought through as a unit there was no master plan - as there should have been. So things got done, thereafter, as time, skill, inclination and cash allowed. As I said about hindsight.......
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask is the ramp for any particular reason? You don't have to answer. But the funicular idea could be used in that a small lift platform, within a blockwork housing, could be installed to drop the 1.4m and operated by a cogwheel and chain for simplicity sake which would free up lots of level area.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just brainstorming the various ways of getting from A to B in the garden and it occurred to me to investigate using a ramp rather than steps - you know the way you try not to condemn such ideas until the "generation" stage is over, lest you interrupt the creative flow.

But thanks for the ingenious suggestion.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invoice is on its way.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in good voice, too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I'm expecting a tip too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only tip near here was at Ballintra and its closed now.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's gratitude for you!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where would I be able to get well grown yew or holly with which to construct a more-or-less instant "green wall" ( yes, I know it's a hedge) about six feet high.
It's an idea I have and I want to cost it. The end result would be like a topiary wall that would echo in its "solidity" and proportions a nearby masonry wall.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cambell plants or Flannerys or Tullys but they will be imported and you need to plant rootballed rather than container grown too late now it will be next years project. that ill cost even geting them at cost price or cash............
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, Greengage, I thought it would be you with the info.
That's a heck of a difference in price: rootballed v container! I knew it made a difference but that's huge. Autumn planting would suit me fine, should I go ahead with the idea. It could be that time before all the building work is complete.
Funnily enough, my first major plant purchase for this garden was a barerooted Acer Griseum many years ago and since then I've planted a few other specimens as rootballed or bare root. All have done well for me.
If I go for taxus about 1.5 to 2m high, what kind of planting distance would be best to achieve my "green wall" effect? 60cms? They would be planted in what would be, in effect, a giant planter with its top edge at ground level and an open base.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the size of the plant, i would have the outer branches just touching when pruned tey will grow into each other.
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