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Help to identify this this shrub?, (small tree?) please.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Help to identify this this shrub?, (small tree?) please. Reply with quote

I have no idea what this is! It is about 10 foot tall and probably planted about 10 years ago and is a bit gangly in habit!






This is the bark, it is multi-stemmed.

Apologies the photos are a little fuzzy, I always struggle to focus the camera when there are white flowers.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drimys Winteri.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kindredspirit wrote:
Drimys Winteri.


Kim..your pics are just perfect for an id!

Sorry kindredspirit..leaves and flowers wrong for Drimys winteri.
It is Heptacodium miconioides.... commonly known as the Seven Sons plant,

The veins on the leaves make it very distinctive.


http://woodyplants.cals.cornell.edu/images/medium/pid-394-5.jpg

Flowering now it is a super shrub/ small tree.
Should be more widely grown.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Heptacodium+miconioides&client=firefox-a&hs=qLx&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=te8mVJb9J47iaOOGguAK&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1536&bih=728

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptacodium_miconioides

http://davisla4.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/heptacodium-miconioides-flower.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, well. At least I had a bash at it. Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much!


I have lots of things planted and I try to label and remember but some things just grow away quietly, become a little forgotten, and then pleasantly surprise you one day.

Wonderful to be able to put a name to it and read up on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help.
Here is another pic to show the interesting veins/leaf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptacodium_miconioides#mediaviewer/File:Heptacodium_leaf.jpg

Quote wiki..."Heptacodium miconioides, commonly known as the Seven Sons plant, is a member of the Caprifoliaceae family, a cousin of the Honeysuckle, and sole member of the genus Heptacodium. Endemic to China, this species was discovered in 1907 in Hubei province in central China by Wilson whilst collecting on behalf of the Arnold Arboretum. Considered rare at that time, the species is today threatened by habitat loss, and only nine populations are known to remain in the wild,"

Even the flaking peeling bark makes it interesting.

I should also mention what happens next!
The white petals will all fall of and the remaining calyx will turn a beautiful red.
Gorgeous.

http://www.greatplantpicks.org/images/heptacodium-miconioides-ras-01-gpp.jpg

http://mijntuin.s3.amazonaws.com/plants/11237.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went down the garden to take a good look at the Heptacodium, it is a lovely plant. Not far away is growing an Escallonia 'Iveyi (I think!), the Escallonia is covered in honey bees and butterflies and is very showy but little or no scent. The Heptacodium has a very sweet fragrance, lovely and delicate. It's habit is a bit gangly but I think that may be due to neglect, ( I will remedy) . I haven't noticed the butterflies on the Heptacodium, it is in a more shady position though and a little further away.

Thanks again Silver surfer, it is great to have the links too.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim wrote:
Not far away is growing an Escallonia 'Iveyi (I think!), the Escallonia is covered in honey bees and butterflies and is very showy but little or no scent. The Heptacodium has a very sweet fragrance, lovely and delicate. It's habit is a bit gangly but I think that may be due to neglect, ( I will remedy) . I haven't noticed the butterflies on the Heptacodium, it is in a more shady position though and a little further away.



Heptacodium will happily take full sun.
Yes the perfume is yet another added bonus!

Hmm! Our Escallonia iveyii used to flower in July.
End of September seems very late .

http://www.jardinexotiqueroscoff.com/site/uploads/pictures/plante/800x800/saxifragaceae-escallonia-iveyi-3.jpg


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Heptacodium would probably be better in full sun but when plants will take shade I tend to give it to them and save sunnier spots for those that really need it.

This is what I was guessing as an Escallonia... the bees and butterflies are loving this at the moment.





The leaf does look different to your picture. This was on my list to check and I took these pictures yesterday.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had checked first I might have guessed Escallonia bifida (not Iveyi).
Oh plant names, I have so much to learn!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim wrote:
If I had checked first I might have guessed Escallonia bifida (not Iveyi).
Oh plant names, I have so much to learn!


Hmm! Me too..... every day I am learning about plants...
The more I know, the more I realise just how little I do know!

The leaves of Escallonia bifida are certainly very different from E. iveyii.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Escallonia+iveyi+leaf&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&biw=1536&bih=703&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=AMonVI7tK5PYaqK_gbAB&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=LbSRvAO9bcTTcM%253A%3B5j8pNEPgdxr68M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.crowders.co.uk%252Flibrary%252Fproducts%252Fmedium%252Fmedium_3_hl11743_escallonia_iveyi_shrub.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.crowders.co.uk%252Fbuy%252Fplants%252Fshrubs%252Fescallonia-iveyi%3B361%3B271

Quote wiki..."It can grow up to 4 metres high and has leaves which are 2 to 7 cm long and 0.8 to 2 cm wide."
Cannot get a good look at your leaves.

Flowers late August and September.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Escallonia_bifida_5074.jpg

http://www.greatdixter.co.uk/nursery-catalogue/products/escallonia-bifida/

Your Escallonia is a picture. A credit to you. Well done.
You have some very interesting plants in your garden...enjoy!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cannot get a good look at your leaves.


here are the leaves.



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Your Escallonia is a picture. A credit to you.

It is very floriferous this year and a credit to what is possible with 2 good summers in a row.

My favourite plant at the moment though is the Chilean myrtle (Luma apiculata ).
Pretty white flowers, a wonderful fragrance, covered in bees and hoverflies and super bark.

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The more I know, the more I realise just how little I do know!

I agree completely.

I don't know why this thread has such a wide page?? The photos are not that big. Unfortunately when I load smaller pictures the quality also reduces and they are quite grainy. All the same it is fantastic to be able to share pictures so easily.

Thanks so much for all your thoughts and links Silver surfer.
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