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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject: building a shed Reply with quote

hi all.i am building a shed for a friend 13 ft by 15ft.i will post photos as I go along. jack


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long way to go from a hole in the ground, bet it wont be a normal shed something interesting i suspect
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: shed Reply with quote

hi .building very simple shed,first you will need a square ,made one using the 3 4 5 method, jack


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi we use the square to get right angle of gable wall


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5, 12, 13 works as well Jack. Will be more accurate for longer walls.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These also work, (3, 4, 5 ) (5, 12, 13) (8, 15, 17) (7, 24, 25)
(20, 21, 29) (12, 35, 37) ( 9, 40, 41) (28, 45, 53)
(11, 60, 61) (16, 63, 65) (33, 56, 65) (48, 55, 73)
(13, 84, 85) (36, 77, 85) (39, 80, 89) (65, 72, 97)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus Christ when was the last time you saw a piece of timber 97 feet long? I only gave the one that I did as the 13' was one of the dimensions required. Delete all that cos when good guy comes on around midnight he will go onto a spasm!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No spasm - I just wonder, how the hell do you do stuff like that. Ah well, horsets for corsets, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you remember the day that you were taught maths in school? Were you picking strawberries that day?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All to do with your man Pythagoras, he was the only man I was god at in maths
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah well, horsets for corsets, I suppose.

I thought it was horses for courses.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: shed Reply with quote

ok fokes. back to shed .set my lines up.dug hole for post .22in by22in by 24in deep. jack


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I thought it was horses for courses. " quote

Joke.............
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to develop further the points about maths education made by Greengage and Tagwex. In order to do so, without drifting too far off topic, I will tell you a story about me and maths:

I well remember the day I was "taught" Pythagoras theorem at school. A bunch of numbers and letters were written up on the blackboard, in a line, I seem to remember. Then a drawing of a triangle was done and the teacher went through some kind of a rigmarole of an explanation which left me, for one, none the wiser.

That evening I was required to use the "information" acquired in class, in my homework. I remember feeling in total despair, knowing that this was really probably quite simple, but being completely unable to decode it satisfactorily.
I went to my father when he got home from work and told him the problem. He got out a sheet of squared paper and drew a right-angled triangle. Within a couple of minutes we had drawn squares on each side and worked out the respective areas. Bingo! The beautiful elegance of Pythagoras theorem was revealed, all through an excellent, simple, practical piece of teaching like that in the link Greengage posted. Little of my school maths teaching was as well done, unfortunately.

It seems that I have a strong visual, spatial, sense, but have a difficulty with some aspects of maths, akin to the way dyslexia affects aspects of literacy. Geometry is easy-peasy, but I have difficulty with understanding algebraic equations though I can manipulate them, without really knowing what I am doing. And I will often make a calculation correctly but write out the answer wrongly - I'll write 453, instead of 345, for instance. So I've become a firm adherent to the old carpenter's adage "Measure twice, cut once". Incidentally, Greengage's extensions to the 3,4,5 series don't read as a recognisable series to me - I'd have to work them out to see whether they fit the pattern.

As a potter, I developed an interest in glaze chemistry, and for years I taught it as part of the ceramics course I led, becoming a bit of an expert. This involved a lot of arithmetic, in the pre-computer '70s and 80s - I used log tables, before calculators were available. I used to warn my students to look out for my mistakes - we had a good laugh about that and it helped others who found technical/theoretical aspects of the course hard. But we had fun balancing our equations and turning formulae into glaze recipes; then we had the anticipation, waiting to see what the alchemy of the kiln revealed. My maths difficulty actually helped me be a better teacher.

One good result of all this is that I have developed a strong empathy with people who have literacy or other learning difficulties and find strategies for coping with them. I am writing about it here, even though it may seem "off topic" because, while everyone needs to have some facility with maths - to build sheds, sow seeds, cook, take medication etc., being "good at maths" is not a be-all-and-end-all. As someone once said, "There are more ways than one of skinning a cat" and there are many ways in which to be intelligent. All human beings are intelligent in multiple ways; many of these kinds of intelligence are, unfortunately, ignored by the type of narrowly focused educational system that has evolved in our society since the Industrial Revolution.

Sorry about all that, Ponddigger! Let's get back to your shed; you explain the process very well.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joke.............

Are you trying to wind me up again?

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