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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:02 pm    Post subject: Plant ID whats this Reply with quote

Saw this growing in Mount Stewart gardens Co Down anyone know what it is.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a relative of Mollucella laevis, Bells of Ireland?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was my thoughts as well but i dont know.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating Greengage.
Can you revisit to add more pics.
It seems to have a single flower....coming from the leaf axil and near the round stipule/bract on the stem.
I would love to see a single flower...what colour is it......how many petals...what does it look like??????
Interesting shape leaves.
Are the leaves in 3's or am I seeing things.
Driving me nuts.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BINGO!


Got it.....Amicia Zygomeris. Common name Gotta pea OR Yoke-leaved amicia,



Good find Greengage
Pea family.

Native to the mountains of Mexico.
Can grow 7ft tall.

"Amicia are upright perennials with alternate leave composed of 4 leaflets"...not 3 as I thought I was seeing.

The leaves fold up at night!
Quote Burncose nursery..".Each leaf has 2 pairs of inversely heart-shaped leaflets with rounded stipules to 4cm (1in) across veined purple and diffused reddish purple."

http://www.botanic.cam.ac.uk/CMSShared/Image.aspx?p=27&ix=765&pid=137&prcid=26&ppid=2691&pup=true&xrid=192034

http://www.plantify.co.uk/Amicia-zygomeris/plant-5159

http://www.ivydenegardens.co.uk/Mixed%20Border%20Herbaceous/amiciazygomeris.html

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Amicia+Zygomeris,&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PCv6U8zrBI_haMiagogP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1536&bih=703

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicia

Quote wiki...

Amicia zygomeris

Scientific classification

Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Rosids
Order: Fabales
Family: Fabaceae
Subfamily: Faboideae
Tribe: Dalbergieae[1][2]
Genus: Amicia
Kunth

Species[3][4]

Amicia andicola (Griseb.) Harms
Amicia fimbriata Kuntze
Amicia glandulosa Kunth
Amicia lobbiana Benth.
Amicia medicaginea Griseb.
Amicia micrantha Harms ex Kuntze
Amicia parvula Rusby
Amicia zygomeris DC.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta p..
Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever illness you have you must have been infected by Good Guy, it is called punitis.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really need to know how you do this. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greengage wrote:
I really need to know how you do this. :lol:


Ok ..I look at the pic...I mean really look!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah right, I dont believe you there must be a search engine i dont know about. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greengage wrote:
Yeah right, I dont believe you there must be a search engine i dont know about. :lol:


I wish there was.

No search engine that you don't know about...just good old GOOGLE!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done, SS! You must be good at asking google the right questions, though. Pre-supposes a good botanical training and a sharp eye for the essential detail.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good guy wrote:
Well done, SS! You must be good at asking google the right questions, though. Pre-supposes a good botanical training and a sharp eye for the essential detail.


Thank you Good guy. That was a very kind thing to say.

That was what I meant....you have to study the pic....look....really look ..find all the clues you can.......

Is it deciduous or evergreen.
Is it short or tall.
Is it upright or does it trail along the ground.
Are the leaves opposite or alternate.
What shape are the leaves.
How long are the leaf stalks
There were no sign on the round things to indicate that they had been female or male flowers therefore what could they be ... round stipules or bracts at the base of the leaves?
What colour are the petals.
How many petals.
What shape are the flower.
etc etc.

Once I id a plant I like to surf www to find accurate links to add.
Hopefully a little of the knowledge will rub off on others.

Hardy a day goes past that I don't learn something new.

The more I learn the more I realise just how little I know!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the check-list Silver Surfer. A great tool for honing my skills.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you have competition for these IDs we wil all be googling the above.
Well done, but that still does not help me id your other post , me thinks you are using close up to throw us off the scent. Laughing
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