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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Help identifying type of japanese maple Reply with quote

Hi there,

I have noticed these japanese maples growing in the courtyard of my apartment complex.





I think they are crimson queen from a quick google search but I'm not sure.. Either way I'm thinking of nabbing a few cuttings and attempting to grow them in my apartment!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please do not steal cuttings ..they will just die.
Special Acers are grafted onto the ordinary Acer palmatum.rootstock..

There are several it might be.
I think Crimson Queen is darker.
You need a real Acer expert.

You may like to have a look at UBC forums...they have an amazing section just on Maples...picture gallery and a separate question section.

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=86
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are literally hundreds of mutations, all with their own name. It COULD be A. palmatum Atropurpureum "Ornatum", been a long while since I worked in an arboretum...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies! Don't worry I'd always ask before taking any clippings from a plant.

After reading up japanese maples a bit more I realize it would be pretty difficult to identify it. I actually have a different question now..

I understand that named cultivars such as bloodgod can only be propogated by cutting or grafting, but if you grow the seeds from a cultivar or variety, will it still belong to that variety?

For instance if I germinate seeds from an Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Crimson Queen', will the resultant plant be Acer palmatum or Acer palmatum var. dissectum? Or does it just depend on the phenotype that you get? I'm probably mixing up the difference between variety and cultivar but if someone could post up a good link explaining the above I'd be very grateful!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virtus wrote:


For instance if I germinate seeds from an Acer palmatum var. dissectum 'Crimson Queen', will the resultant plant be Acer palmatum or Acer palmatum var. dissectum? Or does it just depend on the phenotype that you get? I'm probably mixing up the difference between variety and cultivar but if someone could post up a good link explaining the above I'd be very grateful!


To be a clone and be guaranteed one exactly like the original you need to graft them.
Some Acer trees do have seeds that usually look like the parent tree....but there are no guarantees.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would it be acer palmatum disectum autopureum
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