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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ponddigger - jumping the gun a bit here but how can I get hold of the black silicone stuff for sealing joints around waterfalls etc. I think this is where I'm going wrong - water going under the stones instead of over.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:41 pm    Post subject: pond Reply with quote

hi sue. try this website for black waterfall foam .jack. http://www.pondkeeper.co.uk/waterfall-foam-black-680g-gun-grade/p2056
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foam is not really the answer. It may cure the problem, but not the cause. (and what did people do before March 2012, when that foam was introduced)

A waterfall should always have a slight drop / slope.

If you have rocks / stones / boulders or similar around an edge, the liner should go under and past and then up behind the rock, again, with a gentle slope to the front so any water will run back into the pond.

A common cause of water loss is a punctured liner. If an interesting stone has a sharp edge, often an old "scrap" piece of liner is put down under the piece to protect the main liner.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:28 pm    Post subject: foam Reply with quote

hi,black waterfall foam is being used in the usa for the last 10 years. jack. , http://www.aquascapeinc.com/videos/Installation#YT_sfrDEkSAa0E
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: foam Reply with quote

ponddigger wrote:
hi,black waterfall foam is being used in the usa for the last 10 years. jack.


But it was you who said
ponddigger wrote:
hi sue. try this website for black waterfall foam .jack. http://www.pondkeeper.co.uk/waterfall-foam-black-680g-gun-grade/p2056


And that advert clearly says

advert linked to: wrote:
Professional Black Foam for Waterfalls - Landscaper Grade

Black Waterfall Foam has been a hit since we introduced it to the market in March 2012.


But that aside, foam does not solve the cause, if a waterfall is built right in the first place (as they did before foam was used) there is no need for it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first impression of that is that the same product can be introduced to different 'markets' years apart by trying out the product in its home country first maybe and then expanding, as is the way with a new product, especially if the company is small. If Jack says it has been in the US for 10 years then he most likely is correct. He has been posting up projects that he has built from both here in Ireland and from the US for years so in all likelihood he has been using it for the time period he states.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I have built a number of waterfalls and a couple of streams. There has been nothing wrong with the way they were built.

The problem is I am not 'Capability' Brown or Le Notre. I don't have teams of men, diverting rivers for me.

The first waterfall/stream I built all but emptied the pond to supply the fall and stream. When I turned the pump down the water dribbled under the stones.

If I use the foam to pack the spill stones I will create a series of long, narrow pools. They will give the appearance of a larger volume of water flowing back into the pond - Ta Da!

So, once again, thank you ponddigger.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: pond Reply with quote

hi sue,any photos of your pond and stream. jack
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack, The new stream and pond are, at present, all in the mind! The only thing you can see is a scrape in the ground, a forest of canes and a length of old hose as a marker.

The others are all pre digital. But if I can find so photo's I'll scan and post them.

I know this is going to be a slow process. The construction of a new garden comes way down the list of our priorities at the moment, and everytime I save a little something else crops up that empties the account again!

The only recent water projects are the two I did for my friend in her garden. She'd be the first to say she is not a gardener. She wanted water 'features' that could be seen from the house and were low maintenance. This is what I came up with.

The box around the bigger pool is now well established and the leylandii hedge is already starting to hide the buildings on the street.

Bob is one of the 'Car Park Cats' our team of 'Verminators'! Laughing



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work, Sue. It would be good to see the formal pond in its more mature state from other angles.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Good guy, I was over at my friend's house today, doing a bit of garden spring cleaning and took these photos of the larger pool.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's looking well, Sue. What are the purple 'balls'? Pittosporum?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I wasn't sure if they would be hardy enough. That corner is suprisingly windy and cold (especially today!) But they are doing really well. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planted a similar one under my kitchen window a year ago and it is doing well there, too, despite being in a windy place. Seems they are pretty tough.
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