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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Soil for new raised beds??? Reply with quote

Where is the best place to purchase soil for new raised beds for growing vegies?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could just go to a garden centre and buy some compost, topsoil, manure, etc and mix it up yourself.

Otherwise get a delivery in one tonne bags.

Where are you based? If you're in the Dublin area try the Landscape Depot:
http://www.landscapedepot.ie/
You can get the soil mix you need.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that. I live in Greystones. I have tried calling http://www.landscapedepot.ie/ but they are not answering their phone at present. I will keep trying.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could also try the sandman he does topsoil in ton bags
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest going to your local garden centre for soil. Not only will you be able to purchase soil from them, they will also be able to offer you advice on which soil is best for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea. I will try that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem, let us know you get on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to purchase soil to fill 3 raised beds in early April, and as they are 14" deep they took some filling; 2.5 metric tonnes to be precise. I bought from a company called MULCH based on the northside of Dublin, Malahide Rd, and found them professional and passionate about their products. I bought 3 tonne bags of super soil which is a screened topsoil with 25% added soil conditioner, and I got what I paid for. In comparison to what some garden centres and builders providers are asking per tonne with no guarantee as to quality, it may be worth checking Mulch out to see if they deliver southside...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirt Digger wrote:
I had to purchase soil to fill 3 raised beds in early April, and as they are 14" deep they took some filling; 2.5 metric tonnes to be precise. I bought from a company called MULCH based on the northside of Dublin, Malahide Rd, and found them professional and passionate about their products. I bought 3 tonne bags of super soil which is a screened topsoil with 25% added soil conditioner, and I got what I paid for. In comparison to what some garden centres and builders providers are asking per tonne with no guarantee as to quality, it may be worth checking Mulch out to see if they deliver southside...


How much was it per tonne?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If memory serves right Ray, it was 69.00 Euro per tonne bag
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mulch.ie/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dirt Digger wrote:
If memory serves right Ray, it was 69.00 Euro per tonne bag

just something i am pedantic about - they sell it in a 1 cubic metre bag; which a lot of people refer to as a tonne bag.

1 cubic metre of water is a tonne, but i suspect the soil is about or greater than this density (as it is not compacted) this so you should be getting roughly a tonne of soil, if not more.

where this problem becomes deceptive (and the reason i get pedantic about it) is that you often see firewood being sold in 'one tonne bags'; which to a lot of people would imply a tonne of firewood. but it's not nearly that, as the wood would be less dense than water, and certainly does not take up 100% of the capacity of the bag, so you could end up getting just half a tonne of wood.

anyway, as you were.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might consider filling your beds with Mel’s Mix as in the Square Foot method. The mix is:-

1/3 peat moss – easy to get at DIY’s or garden centres.

1/3 coarse vermiculite – used to insulate around chimney liners, you will get it get at a builders providers or insulation suppliers.

1/3 compost - The compost is very important as there is no fertiliser used. Try to get a good mix of different types of compost i.e. kitchen compost + cow manure + seaweed + chicken manure, etc. The farmyard manure and compost you buy bagged in the garden centres is rubbish, it is bulked-up with non organic material like peat (a bit like beef burgers).

Mix it in manageable size batches, put a big tarp out on the lawn and throw above ingredients onto it, mix it up and drag the tarp to the bed and dump it in. You only do this when you start the bed the first time and it a lot less work that digging heavy wet soil.

See:- http://www.squarefootgardening.org/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lius wrote:

1/3 coarse vermiculite – used to insulate around chimney liners, you will get it get at a builders providers or insulation suppliers.


Are you sure about using vermiculite, and so much of it? It enhances drainage which is rarely a problem with a raised bed. The opposite, in fact. Most people complain about their raised beds being too dry as opposed to too wet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm experimenting without the Vermiculite in the last two of my outdoor raised beds. I filled these with 50% peat moss and 50% topsoil, I topped off with kitchen compost and farmyard manure. I have also used this in the beds in my new greenhouse as I am concerned about keeping them moist.

This is the second season with the two beds without the Vermiculite and I find them a bit heavy and sticky, harder to dig and weed, and of course much more weeds due to seeds in the topsoil. However the results seem to be similar to the four Mel’s Mix beds in terms of yields. The greenhouse beds seem to hold water well also which just what I wanted and everything is thriving so far.
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