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Greengage
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:57 pm    Post subject: What is this plant Reply with quote

I found it growing in a garden in the west of Ireland Mayo, I suspect i know what it is but need someone to confirm my suspicion, I wont say what I think it is in case I influence anyone, any Ideas.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colutea arborenscens !!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thats what I thought it was have not seen it before but looks nice .
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

polly wrote:
Colutea arborenscens !!!


Sorry everyone but the flower shape is wrong for Colutea... leaflets also very wrong.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Colutea+flowers&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=gcWMUazhNIP_OZC-gNgB&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1365&bih=596

It is Coronilla emerus.
Note the red on the top of the flowers ..also calyx is red.....Leaflets also match perfectly to Greengages pics.

http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Coronilla_emerus/images

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Coronilla+emerus.&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=O8SMUbDXGYua0QXK4YDoCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=967#imgrc=W02BcL_k-nCeqM%3A%3BZ2UxE-rEw4R-NM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcreative.plantdatabase.info%252Fplant_imgs%252Fsize3%252Fcoronilla_emerus_I4481P95505.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.plantdatabase.co.uk%252FCoronilla_emerus%252Fimages%3B780%3B519

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=coronilla+emerus&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=eMOMUd7CDrGZ0AWtqIGwDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1365&bih=596#imgrc=tx0BSDTOQsbBXM%3A%3B6W6A7-6N5_hh9M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.plantdatabase.co.uk%252Fplant_imgs%252Fsize3%252Fcoronilla_emerus_I23869P95505.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.plantdatabase.co.uk%252FCoronilla_emerus%252Fimage%252F23869%3B780%3B519
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK I wont doubt you but The leaves look like Laburnum only smaller and the flowers are pea shaped therefore i assumed it was a member of pea family i.e Fabaceae or Leguminosae so I googled what info I had and came up with Colutea
see this pic http://www.treknature.com/gallery/photo59088.htm
have another look please. I have not seen this plant before anyone traveling in west of Ireland it is growing beside the greenhouse in the Castlebar country life museum.
No gardener around to ask as it was late in the day.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The times I've been to the Country Life Museum which is quite often as I don't live very far away. Do you know I've never seen a gardener.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Greengage"]OK I wont doubt you but The leaves look like Laburnum only smaller and the flowers are pea shaped therefore i assumed it was a member of pea family i.e Fabaceae or Leguminosae so I googled what info I had and came up with Colutea
see this pic http://www.treknature.com/gallery/photo59088.htm/quote]


Have a good look at the flowers of Colutea.
With Colutea the pair of upright petals are larger, and the forward pointing lower ones much narrower and pointed. Compared to the Coronilla in your picture.
Additionall Colutea flowers usually have pretty markings on the 2 upward petals.


See...

http://www.plant-world-seeds.com/store/view_seed_item/3255

Hope this will help to convince you!
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well done im convinced think ill bookmark that page looks good.
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