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john1412
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:34 am    Post subject: Horse Chestnut Reply with quote

hey was just wondering if anyone has any idea of how tall / much growth a 13 year old Horse Chestnut should have
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long is a piece of string? It depends on so many factors: situation, soil, moisture, competition from other plants, especially grass. If growth is poor, the usual culprit is planting too deep (root collar not at the soil surface), lack of light or moisture, though conversely, waterlogging causes stunted growth too, or competition from grass, or other larger trees.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking I was going to get that answer lol, how ever on a more rough scale, obviously it's not going to be 30 ft tall in 13 years, but, would you say 5-8 ft tall is good for a 13 year old tree?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would have thought it should put on a foot or more per year, in good conditions. is it in a pot?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is a foot a year not a lot for a Hardwood like the Horse Chestnut? and nope it's planted in the ground now well over 7 years
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the problem here
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem as such, was more wondering was my horse Chestnut falling behind a bit, do you know the typical growth rate for the Horse Chestnut Greengage?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a picture of the tree, just took it there this evening when I was out

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one that was planted as a conker 15 years ago. It's 8 to 9 feet high now but it's in the middle of a load of weeds, shrubs and rubbish. I planted a second conker too and I'm sure that's somewhere in the general melee too! Very Happy

It was planted in my garden near my boundary but when I built my wall, I straightened the boundary and as a result it's in next door's garden now! Sad No problem. I can always hop over the wall, dig it up and put it in my garden. (if I had somewhere to put it.)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK some positives
1. Its straight stem.
2. It has dominant leader.
3. It is flared near the bottom which means its well anchored.
4. its not staked.
Negatives,
1. It probably should be taller,
2. It is mulched but mounded above its roots
3. It should have a clear stem for approx 8ft.
5. All these lower branches have poor angle of attachments which will cause them to fail in later years.
So what should you or would i do.
Remove mulch from around the trunk allow it to breath.
Remove some of the lower branches this year and the rest next year dormont buds will be stimulated to grow from higher up,
Keep it watered and feed it.
Watch for attacks of aphids and scale insect and canker all chestnuts in europe have the same DNA as the all have the same parents whats killing one will kill all.
Other than that well done nice to grow you own when you and me are long gone hopefully this will still be here.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I only went out this evening and removed the grass from around the base of the tree and put some more seaweed around the tree to stop the grass growing up through and give some feeding from the seaweed, would you recommend removing the seaweed now or keeping it? and i was going to remove the 3 lowest stems however i never got around to doing it, and Iím guessing it's too late now to do it, this was the tree a month ago too

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that competition from the grass is probably the culprit. I can see many years in the past where the tree hardly grew at all. The last couple of years, it seems to have been growing well though. I would remove all the branches up to, and including, the large ones about a third of the way up the main stem, but not until the tree has gone dormant next winter. Other than that, I'd double the grass free area around it, and continue with the seaweed mulch. Thorough drenching once a week if there's been little rain would help. Just leave a hose on a low flow near the main stem for half an hour or so.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, well i'll give that a go and see how the tree improves over the next few years so, i'm guessing with removing the grass this year and putting down the seaweed I might see a good difference in growth this year
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt use fresh seaweed as the salt may cause a problerm other than that cannot disagree with the advice . good luck with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the amount of rain in this country i couldn't see how the small amount of salt in the seaweed would effect the soil, but that seaweed has been sitting around the house for the past month now anyway
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