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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: want tree vwith red leaves Reply with quote

I would like a tree with red leaves like the maple crimson king. What would be suitable for next to a fence which is 6 feet high
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at Acer Crimson Sentry. It's like the crimson king but grows to about half as tall and is narrow growing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a look at Acer Crimson Sentry. It's like the crimson king but grows to about half as tall and is narrow growing.
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Bare root 22.95 is that good? Are any of them ever red [evergreen]

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Annual rate of growth is 30-45 cm.Is that considered fast?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese Sweetgum, Liquidambar Formosa


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at this list
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/trees-new/treelists/burgundy.html
http://www.barcham.co.uk/trees-for-a-purpose/red-purple-foliage
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liquidambar is a real beauty, but it unfortunately need acidic soil.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thatts what the book says but its not always right we have it growing on alkaline soil and beautiful autumn colour
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liquidambar is certainly a wonderful red in the Autumn, but is a very pretty green during the Spring and Summer.

Also, as Greengage mentioned, its not that picky about soil. Mine seems to be perfectly happy on alkaline. Perhaps its one of those trees which can tolerate a wider range, but will grow faster or stronger under certain conditions ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive three in my garden and they're never as healthy as those growing on acidic Soils.

Any ways, other options for autumn colour:
Amelanchier lamarckii
Rhus typhina- these will spread though
Euonymus alathus
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liquidambar styraciflua 'Worplesdon' has a more conical shape than species and will happily grow in alkaline soils
the autumn display is much more vivid and reliable too
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer the original question some good options would be

Fagus syl. 'Dawyks Purple'
Cercis cana. 'Forest Pansy'
Malus 'Rudolf'
Malus 'Red Glow'
Acer campestre 'Red Shine'
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Garden Shop wrote:
Liquidambar is a real beauty, but it unfortunately need acidic soil.
could you not just put some acid compost when planting and do an occasional mulch with acid compost

Thanks for the suggestions everyone only saw most of them now
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi banner.
You can alter your soil to suit whatever plant you to grow. But as a general recommendation its better to work with the conditions you've been given.

Before amending your soil do a simple pH test.
If your soil is alkaline then, to plant a liquidambar, i would recommend that you dig a hole 1M x 1M and 1 1/2 ft deep - remove soil and replace with peat moss. Mulch with pine needles each year.

I agree with others that the liquidamabar will grow on alkaline soil, but it thrives on acidic.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liquidamber would be grown mostly for Autumn colour, otherwise it is green.
Autumn colour has nothing to do with soil type. As summer comes to an end and Autumn arrives, the days get shorter, the trees begin getting ready for winter.
During winter, there is not enough light or water for photosynthesis. The trees will take a rest, and live off the food they stored during the summer. The green chlorophyll disappears from the leaves As the bright green fades away, we can now see yellow and orange colours. Small amounts of these colours have been in the leaves all along. We just can't see them in the summer, because they are covered up by the green chlorophyll. The bright reds and purples we see in leaves are made mostly in the Autumn. In some trees, like maples, glucose is trapped in the leaves after photosynthesis stops. Sunlight and the cool nights of autumn cause the leaves to turn this glucose into a red color. The brown color of trees like oaks is made from wastes left in the leaves. It is the combination of all these things that make the beautiful Autumn foliage colours we see most years.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I planted an Acer freemanii Autumn Blaze last year and would highly recommend if you have space and want a tall tree with amazing colour (in autumn). Do a google image search for the tree name and you'll see what I mean.

They grow very very fast, so good value too.
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