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Looking for advice on pond edging, tree and wildlife design


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stephenc
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ponddigger and all who posted. I've got some good ideas from everyone here but rather than rush into it, I'll dwell on it over the spring.

Thanks again, Stephen
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, a good idea. Put something (a plank?) in, so that the baby frogs can climb out.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd get a few barrowloads of soil, and slope the level of the lawn up to the edge of the pond, which will help hide the exposed sides of the rigid liner. it will blend it into the garden much more.

the large trunk - let the grass grow up around it (not that you've much choice, not easy trying to mow underneath it).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incase Stephen comes back, or for any one else looking for advice, I would like to mention the following.

Sides

The exposed sides of the pond do need to be covered, soil would not only be best its easier and cheap.


Concrete

Putting a concrete ring around it is out of the question for several reasons:

1) A concrete ring should not be used with a rigid liner. A concrete ring can be is a good idea if the ground is level and you are using a flexible liner (neither are the case in this instance)

2) Its expensive and in this case would be of no use.

3) The concrete should be laid before the pond is filled, not afterwards.

4) Concrete contains lime which will "upset" the ph level of the water (This can, and does kill any livestock in the pond)


Waterfall / watercourse

Natural ponds (as this is intended to be) do not have a pump for any water feature, fountain etc simply because they will soon block, or if you opt for a filter pump (bigger screening) they often suck in anything small and chop it up. (Sadly, tadpoles are an example)


Rock around the pond



Q) When did you last see a natural pond surrounded by a ring of stones?

A) You never have and never will

Why? because "mother nature" doesn't do that. Its a man-made idea that ponds should have a ring of stones / rocks / slabs around the perimeter.



Take the two examples above, ignoring the "beached area" would you not say the the grass edging looks better? (rhetorical question)


Slabs can, and do look nice of used on the right "style" of pond, such as shown below.




Design

When building a pond ideally you should think of what sort of pond you want, (natural or artificial looking) and do want a formal or informal shape.

Each pond should be different and "fit in" with its surroundings.

If you are going to get some one to do it for you, ask to see previous work, talk about what you want, not what they want you to have. If someone suggests you have their "trade mark feature" often this means its the only thing they can do well, so ask some one else.

What ever you do, think about it, do it right and big as you can first time (Otherwise you will only want to make it bigger later) and above all Enjoy it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks medieval knievel
and vulkan for more good advice.

The concensus seems to be to use soil to fill the gap and create the slope. My wife's in favour of stones after seeing the previous posts with images and as an obedient husband simply say 'yes dear'.

We are agreed though that there should be a sloping path to the pond for wildlife to walk in unhindered.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone considering a concrete pond, I'ld just like to add a small note to vulkan's checklist. We put in a semi-formal concrete pond about 18-20 year's ago and -- based on several reviews in water gardening mags -- treated the interior with G4 Pond Sealant.

It was a bit pricey but did solve the "concrete not good for livestock" problem. I haven't looked, but would imagine there are other comparable products available.

Just to be on the safe side, we didn't introduce any fish until the following year, but plenty of self-invited visitors arrived and thrived within a matter of months !
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

worth mentioning that if you want a wildlife pond, you will get more wildlife without fish than with.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: pond edging Reply with quote

hi all.thanks for imfo on pond edging,here is a website that sells pond edging http://www.edg-keeper.co.uk/html/Edg-Keeper%20Instructions.htm
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