Irish Carbon Credit Fund for Native Oak and Holly etc.
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: East Cork
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: Irish Carbon Credit Fund for Native Oak and Holly etc. |
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Hi All,
I know a financier who will set up an Irish Carbon Credit Fund for native Irish species. Ireland was nearly completely covered by decidious forests, I hope ye will help me and others bring some of them back. The mountains and peatlands are my target areas. It could also be applied to the shooting areas of Britain where there is just heather and the forests have been felled for that.
Any advice or action would be gladly welcome with reference to feasibility, grants, permissions, sapling cost and any thing else.
Thanks,
Peter Kelly _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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Greengage Rank attained: Chlorophyll for blood
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 3129 Location: Kildare
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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First off this is another myth like the Esker riada, Ireland was never nearly covered in decidious forests wheres the proof.
How to save the world in 5 easy steps Drive less drive smart, eat your vegetables, Switch to reusable shopping bags, Change your light bulbs, Pay your bills on line. You cant keep throwing money at the problem just look where financers have got us so far, Aaaaah im not commenting on this subject again byeeeeeeeee. |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: East Cork
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: Reply to greengauge |
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I only know of Seán O' Riada. You can't spell gauge correctly I think this fact and the time of night might be bringing some negativity. Those solutions are for lemmings. Life is precious and you could utilitate your time better. I like market gardening not importing invasive species. Financiers are not all bad plus now their on the back foot. I hope you read this comment. Any other comments? _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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Dr. Sunny Thomson Rank attained: Rowan Tree


Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 132 Location: ireland
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Reply to greengauge |
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envirosapien wrote: | You can't spell gauge correctly |
Way to win over the masses............... |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: East Cork
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not trying to win over the masses Sunny. I'm merely using my initiative to leave the earth in a better state than which we found it. It's an ethical project. Does it make sense to you?
Any advice or action would be gladly welcome with reference to feasibility, grants, permissions, sapling cost and any thing else.
Coillte said information is located at: http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/forestservice/
Guess its too late to go looking for acorns.
It would be invigourating, healthy, strategic, profitable and above all reforestation. _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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medieval knievel Rank attained: Chlorophyll for blood
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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is the financier approaching existing organisations which are involved in this area? |
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medieval knievel Rank attained: Chlorophyll for blood
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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also, it's a bit rich calling other people on their spelling when your signature contains two spelling mistakes. |
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Greengage Rank attained: Chlorophyll for blood
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 3129 Location: Kildare
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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my signature reads on my system Greengage google it for further info. It took me weeks to come up with that one.
Maybe if your going to save the world you could be a little out of your (death, depth, dept), ok over your head.
In relation to the acorns why not ask the financier for some seed capital to get you started....... |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: East Cork
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: Progress Report. |
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Greengage. The financier said he would establish the fund because it generates carbon credits, he thinks its a brilliant idea and a good legacy. He is not a Dermot Desmond type financier he is a professional financial engineer at the highest level. I' ll talk to him some more about it. He is very busy. As for seed capital..... this is like venture capital and it requires a high return. Enterprise Ireland give seed capital. But hey all it is is growing sapings. I saw in the third world that they reforest for a few cents per sapling. What I should have done was collected all the Irish Acorns and grown them in my acre. I could probably find potting bags on the internet and I have compost. This creates value but good advice and another few people might be the best way to go because its a start.
Medevil Kenevil. I have contacted Coillte and Woods of Ireland. Financier is very busy. _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Posts: 7 Location: East Cork
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Any comments or ideas or proaction. There is an African proverb that says "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago" |
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michael brenock Rank attained: Chlorophyll for blood
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:59 am Post subject: |
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this is a great site very funny, great humour. I feel sure the people who responded to it believed it was serious. It takes all types to make a good contribution and this is good reaction. Many of these financiers do a lot of good and plant a lot of trees themselves on their own land.
michael brenock horticultural advisor (retired) _________________ michael brenock |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I am not acting in jest. The financial engineer said he would establish a fund for it. It is so difficult to do anything off your own back in this country with getting stomped by political gesturing, biligerence and inertia. Usually the problem is solved way too late if at all.
I got a response from: Woodlands of Ireland" and will contact Crann and the Forest Service.
Alot of land has no trees(especially now) and the conifers are just pulp and low value.
Michael Brenock: Can you use your years of experience, knowledge and contacts so I can plant some native broadleafs as saplings somewhere as a start? Or what do you advise?
Any ideas how to get this project off the ground?
Any more comments? _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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envirosapien Rank attained: Hazel Tree

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: Apologies |
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Sorry I'd like to add that barriers to good ideas meet opposition around the world. Ireland is home and some of the best attributes of any country especially its people and landscape. There have been some magnificent results from well thought out ideas, opportunity and perseverance.
This carbon credit fund specialising in native broadleafs has the backing of a "financial engineer at the highest level" and a senior legal person/lobbist. Its off to a magnificent start.
Any input at all is welcome no matter how small or critical. _________________ I love edable gardens, native plants, native trees and unpolluted soil/ground and habitat. I do not like pesticides, fungacide or fertilizer. There are 2.5 billion years left according to science so I'd like to reforest the hills, mountains and scoured peatbogs with native trees like Irish Oak and Holly. I have the support of a financier and a senior legal professional. |
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