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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Paper pots Reply with quote

I'm tempted to get a device that makes pots out of newspaper. Has anybody ever used these? Planting out with no root disturbance, and recycling the paper sounds great, but would the paper not rob a lot of nitrogen, thus stunting the plant? My other alternative is to invest in a load of roottrainers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Paper Pot maker Reply with quote

Here is a link which shows how to make paper pots without having to buy a special device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8qPAV-LDnM

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never ran into the nitrogen hogging problem.
The main issue is keeping the homemade pots moist whilst directing an airflow around them to prevent mould growing on their exterior.
They can dry out quickly as well so it is a but of a balancing act.
Planting out is a doddle though.
I went with toilet roll insert pots here............. Toilet roll insert seed sowing pots.
But I presume Paper pots will have the same pros and cons.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points. Would setting the pots in trays of water in the unheated polytunnel work? I'd rather use leftover newspaper than buy jeyes fluid to sterilise pots every year, but would root trainers be better? I did try toilet rolls for sweetcorn this year, and soaked them in dilute seaweed extract before planting, but they are very slow (largest one is 1 foot).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good points. Would setting the pots in trays of water in the unheated polytunnel work? .


If not constantly sitting in water, and with a decent airflow, then yes.


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I'd rather use leftover newspaper than buy jeyes fluid to sterilise pots every year, but would root trainers be better?


I'll admit root trainers would be slightly better from a watering standpoint, but it's hard to beat finding the one good use for the "News of the world".

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootrainers are great and I've used them to good effect with things like swedes where their high germination rate means you can get 27-28 out of 30 seeds sown and they can then be planted out into the final row, equally spaced with no need to go through the thinning out process which always seems to dislodge some of the ones I want to keep.

The one and only down side to them is that they do seem to use a heck of a lot of compost so you may like to plant in a mixture of soil and compost or compost and peat, just to make your bag of compost go that little bit further.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Paper pots Reply with quote

tippben wrote:
I'm tempted to get a device that makes pots out of newspaper. Has anybody ever used these?


Yes, waste time, a gimmick. The 'disc' part is much larger than the 'cylinder' part, so to get it all to form a tight, freestanding, pot needs about 10 strips of paper. I gave up after making two of them, too much hassle and put it down to a bum buy.

I've used those peat pots in the past, and found that they restrict roots and two years later are still visible in the soil. I'm very skeptical of these pots that you plant are said to disappear.

Have used the long root trainer 'book', these are great.

Have used toilet roll for planting leeks. A haven for slugs but they didn't attack the leeks so it was ok.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, the peat pots are crap. The plants end up stunted, and the pots just go mouldy. Think i'll save my newspapers for the fire and the compost, as the garden centre in Shinrone is selling packs of roottrainers for a fiver.
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