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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Friends or foe Reply with quote

Hi there. Came across these today. I try the old "live and let live approach" where I can but this is my veggie patch. The chap on the top had quite a hard skin - almost shell-like - and I thought it was some sort of cocoon except that the top bit moved around. The other chap moves around a bit more but only if prodded. He's positively lazy (fattened off on my veggie roots perhaps). There has so far only been one of the top guys but lots of the others. Do I leave them or do I treat for infestation in which case is there an organic-type solution. I am not manic about "only organic" but definitely prefer it where possible. Thanks


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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno what the top guy is, I've seen doggy doos that look similar Laughing The bottom guy looks very like a cutworm, a free loader eating your veggies and offering nothing in return Mad
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Foxylock. Thankfully too small to be doggy doo. Length of both is about 4cm. Any idea how to get rid of cut worm? What is it when it grows up? feel better if it turned into a pretty butterfly or something of use?
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No pretty butterfly for you I'm afraid, only an ugly dingy moth ( that some may say has beauty, but who am I to judge Rolling Eyes ) Organically all you can do is damage limitation. Put collars around the seedling for protection, toilet roll inserts are handy for this or something narrower perhaps and make sure they go about two inches into the soil. You will still see damage so root around the soil near these and you will locate the larvae hiding underneath, what you do next is your choice. Also if you don't mind the dark, grab a torch and go hunting for them when they are active at night, picking off the slugs will be a bonus too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wanted to find out more about these fellows so did a bit of googling and found this. whats that bug. the cut worm looks correct but cant find the top one as yet. lots to look through if you want to have a gander....Smile

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/category/caterpillars-and-pupa/moth-caterpillars/owlet-caterpillars/

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look familiar avs0020.............. Mystery Grub
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think its so great that there's a website called What's that Bug! Thanks mralgae and James. I'll go thru this info later. And tonight I'll happily wander around the garden in the dark terrorising anything that isnt beneficial. Thanks again
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