Help identifying Alder seeds?
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dinahdabble Rank attained: Rowan Tree

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Torr
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: Help identifying Alder seeds? |
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Oh dear, I've gone and mixed up two types of cones that I collected from some deciduous, broadleaved trees that I thought were the same, but they are definitely not. :? The cones, and bare trees looked identical, except that one was slightly smaller than the other - should have realised. :oops: Upon extraction, however, the seeds of larger and smaller are completely different. The one type are flattish, round, grey, about 3 mm across, with a very thin halo of papery material attached around the edge. The other seeds are about 1.5 mm across, bright orange, nearly triangular from one angle though rounded from the other - no halo. I didn't have time to inspect the leaves or bark of each tree closely, since I leaped from the car and grabed as many as I could before the lights changed. I was attempting to gather native Alder to plant, but now I have two types - one is obviously an imposter the naughty, naughty thing. If anyone knows which is the Alder (if either) your help would be very much appreciated.
Also, if anyone could help me explain my behaviour to the police, I would be even more greatful :wink: |
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Foxylock Rank attained: Sessile Oak Tree


Joined: 08 Aug 2009 Posts: 291 Location: cork
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like squirrellous behaviour to me  |
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forest flame Rank attained: Yew tree

Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 384 Location: DUBLIN
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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i couldnt be sure which is which but why not sepreate the types and plant them up anyway.
next year when they get a few leaves it will be easy to identify them. |
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dinahdabble Rank attained: Rowan Tree

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Torr
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Good thinking Forrest Flame. I've seperated them using a kitchen collander, and will plant them and see.
Foxylock re: Police. You don't think they will do me for Squirrellous behaviour do you? I'll have to plead rodent-rage!! |
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dinahdabble Rank attained: Rowan Tree

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Torr
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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After a considerable amount of searching, I am nearly sure that the little orange seed is the Alnus Glutinosa, and the bigger grey are Alnus Incana. It's exhausting work looking up seed types on the internet, I need a cup of tea! Will somebody please make me a cup of tea!! |
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walltoall Rank attained: Orchard owner

Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 706 Location: Thurrock RM15 via Dungarvan and the Banner County
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: Cuppa Rosy then Dinahdabble? |
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Kettle's on, pot is warming. Earl Grey or Assam? Sugar Milk? Mug or cup? I'm right out of jampots at the moment due to a lasy minute glut of tomatoes chutneyed. But I respect a researcher so I'll make your tea. What in the name of goodness were you doing up at 4am though? _________________ Retired trouble-maker. twitters @walltoall and dreams of being promoted to Pedunculate Oaker. |
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dinahdabble Rank attained: Rowan Tree

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 128 Location: Torr
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well I started looking for the seeds on the internet as a kind of 'last job of the day' and... it was suddenly 4 am. It happens when ever I try to find something out on the internet - think they call it information overload.
Anyway, the virtual Earl Grey was very reviving, even if it was made 6 hours later and was simmering in the pot for 6 hours after that - I definately needed it.  |
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