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no broccoli or cauliflower heads and mouldy pepper plant


 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: no broccoli or cauliflower heads and mouldy pepper plant Reply with quote

Hi All

This is my first year attempting any vegetable growing and everything so far has been a success expect for the broccoli and cauliflower.

I planted the broccoli and cauliflower in raised beds filled up with well rotted maure and then added lots of bought composite, i planted the cauliflower straight into the bed and transplanted some broccoli and also planted some broccoli straight into the bed from seed. however all the plants grew really tall leafy and green but only at 2 out 30 plants of broccoli produced any heads and even these were very loose and bolted really quick. the cauliflower although also really leafy and green produced nothing else only leaves. everything was planted late march and early june, and due to the summer we've had i doubt they were short of water!!.

so any advice as to what i've done wrong???

Also I planted a pepper plant in a greenhouse and all was going really well some fruit was even starting to grow and then suddenly the rest of the flowers started to go all mouldy and would just drop off at the slightest touch.

any advice on either problems would be greatly apprecieated.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure on the pepper plant but I reckon your problem with the small cauliflower heads could be from bolting brought on by drought. I know we had a lot of rain but I also remember 1 or 2 very dry periods. combined with growing in raised beds that dry out quickly could have caused the bolting.
If the Ph of the soil too acid that could cause it as well

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats great thanks a lot for your swift reply, it was the broccoli that bolted really quickly so i'll definatly watch the drought thing next yr, but the cauliflower never produced any heads what so ever at all do you think this could be down to the same problem of a spell of drought?

thanks again i really apprecieate the advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soil too loose on sowing or transplanting can cause this as well macrello.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re broccoli and cauliflower i am not sure whether you started off with seeds or bought in plants. i will deal with the cauliflower first as you still have it growing, it may be an autumn/winter type or variety an has to produce a lot of leaves before it produces a curd. from your message it did not bolt or run to seed, the broccoli bolted and drought or lack of nutrients could cause this. Overcrowding or thinning out too late is another. If you bought the plants then you have no ides how the plants were raised or what the growing regime was like. do you know what varieties you have? You have two distinct problems and the cauliflower may continue to grow until next march or April befiore it produces a curd.
The problem with the peppers is temperature was too low and the light levels were not high enough. if there was no insects around then pollination would have been poor or absent. better luck next year.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks very much micheal,

I think one of the problems then might be over crowding as i do have quite a lot of plant in one end of my raised beds, and also maybe a period of drought. all the broccoli was planted from seeds and most is the purple sprouting broccoli, sprouting broccoli corvet or nine star perennial.

do u think i should go ahead an pull up the rest of the broccoli plants as only about 3 out of 20 plants produced anything near a head the rest just big leaves?

and should i leave the rest of the cauliflower an see what happens? it was cauliflower winter roscoff and i planted it in april???

finally do you mean i want insects in the glasshouse for pollination an if so which 1s? as some peppers are growing big and others the flower dies almost straight away from mould, can insects help this?

thanks again for all your help
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