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jimmy mac
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: growing grapes Reply with quote

Folks here i am again looking to pick your brains.I have been told that i can grow grapes in my greenhouse by planting them outside and getting them to grow into the greenhouse.Can anyone let me know if this is worth a try and where i could source some plants.Also how long would they take to grow some produce rgds jimmy mac
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know feck all about growing stuff, but that sounds wrong to me.
How would they grow into the greenhouse? Through a window/door etc? It that's the case, would it not be counterproductive to whatever else is in there to have loads of air constantly blowing through it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hoping to grow them through a small opening which i can surround with some flexible material like strong plastic therefore the ope will be small and the wind will be minimal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah right...now I get you
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: grapes Reply with quote

Hi

The roots of the vines are better outside as this keeps then in the ground and constantly watered and it also keeps them cooler too. They shoots just need pointing in the right direction


Here's a bit about them...... http://www.gardenplansireland.com/forum/about739.htm

Check out your local garden centres for good plants.... you could do mail order...Bakker do some .... http://www.bakker-irl.com/index.aspx?N=903616&promotion=j2&campaign=google&gclid=CLCznLnk_ZsCFU0A4wodz0p7_A

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have planted ours outside the poly tunnel and have it growing on a framework around the door so it gets the heat of the tunnel and we get fruit off it. Inside space is so valuable may need to get a new tunnel.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it is possible to grow grapes with roots outside and train a single stem in at the base of the glasshouse and then proceed to train it as a normal indoor vine. I have been doing it for years but this is the worst one yet. Train the shoot along the highest part of tunnel or greenhouse and you can still use the house to grow other crops. The variety I grow is Black Hamburg and if you require cuttings(easy to grow) in the Autumn you are welcome to them.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi michael i haqve two grape vines growing outside against a fence. they produced good fruit last year and i pruned them really hard in january. this year there is hardly any fruit. what type of cuttings would i take in the autumn. thanks paddy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In October or November take 30 cms cutting of present years growth, at pruning time, cutting just below a bud and insert a bundle of 10-12 into glasshouse soil or in a flower pot or bucket and by next march/April roots should have formed on most of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks michael will try that and hopefully next year increase my stocks
cheers paddy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 75 grapevines growing outside in a field, 50 white and 25 red. The reds have a great crop on them this year, but the whites have hardly a grape! I took cuttings of the reds last year and am going to bang them in next spring (God willing). I'm keeping my fingers crossed for enough sunshine over the next two months to ripen the crop.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice sean
did you take the cuttings in autumn
and have you any tips
thanks
paddy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Paddy, I took the cuttings in January. I planted them in a little bed in my vegetable garden. Judging by the growth they've made over the summer, most of them have rooted. Try to take cuttings that have at least three, and preferably four nodes or "joints" (if you compare the cutting to your arm, the nodes would be your elbow, wrist etc.) Plant the cutting so that the bottom two (or three) nodes are buried - it's from these nodes that the roots come. Leave the top node above ground and that should produce a shoot. That's about all there is to it. If you want three new vines, take nine cuttings - they don't all succeed!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that sean
i will try and see what happens
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