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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: hello from dublin 8 Reply with quote

hi all,

pleased to find this community - already learning a lot here so thanks!

it's the first time i've had a garden to play with. it's west facing with a four' wall on the south and north sides. i have a patch about 18' by 6' which i dug last year and have recently raked and levelled again. soil appears to be well drained and rich. for the last few years it's been covered in undergrowth - big weeds and ivy - which took a lot of clearing last year.

plan is to grow spuds, carrots, tomatoes, celery... basic veg - first attempt so nothing too adventurous.

i'm also planning on establishing some herbs - mainly the basic cooking ones like bay, rosemary, thyme and parsley.

i have a few questions but i'll save them for the other sections.

ciao!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello johnc. Sounds like a nice patch you have. looking forward to hearing about it over the year.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome johnc. Lots of good advice and people to keep you right here.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome johnc. I would have thought that celery growing was for 2nd or 3rd year gardeners. good on you trying it this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there and Welcome.,
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the welcome guys.

celery - no research done on it yet - if it looks to ambitious maybe i'll skip it. got to learn to walk first i guess.

a friend of mine says not to bother with carrots cause of carrot fly - she says it's practically impossible to get a decent crop.. i think i'll give it a go anyway.

cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, Don't give up on anything. First of all, try your carrots as you intend to do. Sow early, when your carrots are between 1" and 2" high, go along the row with your boot and tramp them firmly, not straight down with your boot, but bending the foliage forward, if that makes sense, but do it firmly. The earlier the better. It helps prevent the carrot fly laying it's eggs in the soil as it's too firm, trust me, I've done it for years and grown carrots successfully in areas badly affected with carrot fly. The reason for doing this early is so that the smell of the bruised carrot foliage is gone by the time they are on the wing and searching. Next, make sure you learn to sow thinly to reduce thinning the carrots at a time of year when the fly is on the wing, less thinning, less aroma. Next sow late carrots to avoid the carrot fly season.
Both these methods won't give you 100% protection, but will give a decent crop. Burn any carrots you pull that have larvae on/in.
As for Celery, go on, give it a go. Sow in a greenhouse if possible under a little heat. In the meantime, dig out your trench where you will grow them, about 12" to 18" is good. Line the bottom of the trench with a good covering of farmyard manureand fork it well to mix the manure with soil. then give the top of this a dressing of soil. Hopefully you should still have a trench around 4" - 6" left. Leave it like that until you celery plants are ready to plant out. Plant them out when ready, let them grow a while, when they are around 8" to 12" tall start filling in the trench with your soil, first wrap some paper, old newspaper is good, around the plants, this prevents the soil getting amongst the sticks Do this gradually over time, even ridging the soil up about the plants, adding more paper as you go. Eventually you will have a good crop of nicely blanched celery. It's important they don't dry out, hence lots of manure to hold moisture otherwise they will be stringy and run to seed.
Experiment, don't be scared to try and grow something because you were told it's too difficult, it's the only way you will learn, you can change and adjust methods each year, so make sure you keep notes every year on what you do and how it went right or wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrot fly only fly within 50-60cm (about two ft) of the ground, so if you can put a physical barrier around your carrot patch that will stop 'em.

I agree wholeheartedly with the ppl who tell you to go ahead with your plans for celery...we were all novices the first time we grew it! Good Luck

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey - thanks for the advice liparis and muddywitch.

any substitute for manure to keep the ground moist? only have a bicycle, none of my housemates have a car so can't really transport manure...

i've been wondering about the watering as well - with the last week of good weather the soil looks really dry out there - i better get a hose or something i guess...

great tip on the carrots liparis - i'll give it a go. cheers!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Johnc
Best of luck with your Garden
Listen to your heart when growing and it WILL grow because you 'll love it
I'm in the same boat as you just ready to start planting but what to plant??? Happy gardening
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All
I live in the garden county ,have only started gardening last spring ,a novice but i'm really enjoying myself,
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, hello sailor. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome

And heres hoping we get a better summer for growing veg this year!
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