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Cherry Blossom wilting and dying!! Help!!!


 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Cherry Blossom wilting and dying!! Help!!! Reply with quote

Hello,

3 years ago we bough a lovely Cherry Blossom (white) about 2 years old. We planted it and the first year it did fine and grew quite nicely... on the second year it came back nicely (flowered perfectly early spring and all the leaves came out fine) until mid summer when suddenly we noticed all the leaves started to look wilted and browner as if lacking water...

We regularly watered it throughout that time hoping it would resolve the issue but the tree kept looking worse by the week. In fact, it got so bad that all the leaves looked totally dead by autumn as if totally dried out. However the leaves did not fall...
After a bit of research on the web the only 2 problems I can find were Firelight (which I don't think is the issue, or at least I hope it's not... as I have plenty of other Rosaceous around and they are fine) or a Root fungal disease which in that case I believe I cannot replace with one of the same specie.

So after find out the above, I removed all the leaves of the tree by hand and burnt them... and left the tree hoping it would come back this year... however it didn't, not one bud opened, no flowers, no leaves, nothing... so I pealed the trunk to see if it was still alive and it was (nicely green under) but no sign of life on the outside.

I have now cut it dawn as still no sign of life in May and want to replace it with a new tree... so my question is what do you think was that got it and should I plant something different instead of re-using the same specie??

Thank you in advance!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger, is the root disease you mention Honey fungus, the fungal disease which attacks many plants. Have you dug out the root of the tree yet? If you have still to dig it out check the soil around the roots of the plant, is there a faintly mushroom like smell, this hints at Honey fungus
If you scratch some of the bark on the broom, is there a similar mushroom smell?

Here is an example of some honey fungus symptoms....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello GPI,

Thanks a million for your reply!!

I do think it's to do with the roots system as the aerial part of the tree was not showing any sign of damage... however I haven't had the courage to dig the root out...

But I will get around to it this week-end and will let you know if this is the case... if so is it very bad?? Any danger to spread to other shrubs/trees??? Will I be able to replant on that spot??

Also I noticed you say "Here is an example of some honey fungus symptoms...." at the end of your message but I can't seem to see anything else after it. I also can't seem to be able to view certain links and pics on most of the forums in this site...

Am I missing something along the way...I'm only new as a member, sorry!

Once again, thank you very much for your response! Will keep you posted!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know why you would be unable to see the pics Roger.
I will have a look into it, anyway here is a clickable link to the image I posted above to help you with diagnosis..... http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j280/gardenplansireland/honeyfungussymptoms.jpg
Keep me posted once you dig the root out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello GPI,

I finally got around to dig the root out...

The roots looked pretty big, although i thought they broke very easily. I also did get the mushroom smell but very slightly...

I have a few pics but i can't figure out how to post them... Do i need some special program? Sorry, i'm not as good with computers as i am with gardening... Smile

By the way, i can see the pics and links now... i had some program in my computer blocking them but igit that sorted!

Thanks again for all the help!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:


I have a few pics but i can't figure out how to post them... Do i need some special program? Sorry, i'm not as good with computers as i am with gardening... Smile

By the way, i can see the pics and links now... i had some program in my computer blocking them but igit that sorted!

Thanks again for all the help!!



Good to hear you can now see the pictures on the site. If you want to post pics of your problem, you can follow this Irishgardeners tutorial How to post pictures.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
i also have the same problem as Roger, we have a few cherry blossoms and all are the same eg leaves shrivel up some stay green but mostly all are either shriveled and kinda brown/black, the tree's are in different areas of the garden but all seem to fade away for the last few years

i'm just learning all about the garden so help HELP even, the tree's look healthy enought but we never have seen them in flower , there are mature tree's i will do my best to get some photos of the tree/leaves

any suggestions ???
photos hopfully can solve this problem, these where taken today as i'm concerned that one of the tree's has some form of weeping sore's on it also the base does not look to good, the tree itself looks ok its any of the blossoms we have have never really trived

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=leafdamaged.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=leafofdamagedtree.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=treeroot.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=weepingsoreontree.jpg


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markbld wrote:



i'm just learning all about the garden so help HELP even, the tree's look healthy enought but we never have seen them in flower , there are mature tree's i will do my best to get some photos of the tree/leaves

any suggestions ???


Post up some pics if you can markbld.
Have a look out for the honey fungus symptoms as mentioned above.
If the trees are infected you will have to remove them and from that point on try to avoid planting honey fungus susceptible plants such as.......

Azaleas
Birch
Cedars
Cotoneaster
Currants
Leylandii
Forsythia
Hydrangea
Apple trees
Peonies
Cherry trees and all their relations
Rhododendrons
Roses
willows
lilac
Viburnum
Wisteria

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently put together an article on the subject of honey fungus for those of you still wondering about it and your plants........ Honey fungus "boot-lace", cause, treat, cure.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any suggestions ???
photos hopfully can solve this problem, these where taken today as i'm concerned that one of the tree's has some form of weeping sore's on it also the base does not look to good, the tree itself looks ok its any of the blossoms we have have never really trived

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=leafdamaged.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=leafofdamagedtree.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=treeroot.jpg

http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg153/markbld/?action=view&current=weepingsoreontree.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a case of Bacterial canker markbld.
This usually results in the death of the tree as there is there is really no satisfactory control.
The disease begins by entering wounds in the tree during the autumn, poor pruning cuts, wind broken branches, and strimmer line cuts at the base of the trunk to name just a few possibilities.
If just the branches were showing the tell-tale gum exuding they could be pruned out and burnt, but in your case this gum seems to be seeping from the main stem as well.
It looks as though your trees may have to be removed.
However, you can try and control or slow the disease by spraying with the tree with a fungicide such as Burgundy mixture, described in point (4) of this article..... Burgundy mix.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GPI wrote:
Looks like a case of Bacterial canker markbld.
This usually results in the death of the tree as there is there is really no satisfactory control.
The disease begins by entering wounds in the tree during the autumn, poor pruning cuts, wind broken branches, and strimmer line cuts at the base of the trunk to name just a few possibilities.
If just the branches were showing the tell-tale gum exuding they could be pruned out and burnt, but in your case this gum seems to be seeping from the main stem as well.
It looks as though your trees may have to be removed.
However, you can try and control or slow the disease by spraying with the tree with a fungicide such as Burgundy mixture, described in point (4) of this article..... Burgundy mix.

ho and thanks for the reply

yes all of what you have typed would make sence to me, the tree's where originally damaged by the guy taken care of the lawn he was just brutal with a strimmer,
i think also some tree's may have being hit by the lawnmower as the bases are all damaged from years back needless to say he got the boot last year when i started to take a interest in the garden Laughing

as long as its not huney fungas i can cope with it, i'll remove the worst of the tree's and start again
thanks again for the reply
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Dying Cherry Tree Reply with quote

I too have a young Cherry Blossom tree that looks to be dying... I planted it 12 years ago, and never had any problems with it at all... every Spring it blossomed beautifully up until 2 weeks ago when the leaves and flower buds began to wilt and die... the trunk and branches don't show any signs of disease , just wondering could Frost have caused this?

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Dying Cherry Tree Reply with quote

mark81j wrote:
I too have a young Cherry Blossom tree that looks to be dying... I planted it 12 years ago, and never had any problems with it at all... every Spring it blossomed beautifully up until 2 weeks ago when the leaves and flower buds began to wilter and die... the trunk and branches don't show any signs of diereses, just wondering could Frost have caused this?


I suppose frost could have caused it. Did you get any frost, any other damage from frost in the garden, neighbors cherry trees affected?
to be honest though it looks more like Bacterial canker mark81j.
Do I detect some healing strimmer line cuts at the base?
If Bacterial canker, then all the above advice stands.
A little extra care in the form of an application of tree fertiliser and watering the rootzone during dry periods will help a tree in such close proximity to paths as well.

Give me a close up of some of the foliage and I will tell you for sure if frost did it. Wink

Would be interesting to see how the previous poster markbld got on with his, was it gone too far etc.

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